tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30043595.post3375314875148684942..comments2023-10-15T05:32:17.988-05:00Comments on The Deacon's Slant: Time, Eternity, Free Will & Predestinationplsdeaconhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18039800243898137584noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30043595.post-4541498809769568722008-11-21T07:35:00.000-06:002008-11-21T07:35:00.000-06:00I am like you Phil - the aspect of Calvanism I so ...I am like you Phil - the aspect of Calvanism I so struggle with is rebrobation that God created some people just to send them to hell even in sorrow so HE can show the side of His nature that demands justice . Calvary shows how much God hates sin and the price He paid to redeem . However I know that Scripture does teach God chooses who to save .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30043595.post-29562002157310223932008-06-09T16:29:00.000-05:002008-06-09T16:29:00.000-05:00If we look at things from God's perspective - at t...If we look at things from God's perspective - at the end result, then things like unconditional election and perserverance of the elect make sense. If we look at them from our perspective, then they don't.<BR/><BR/>C. S. Lewis said, in The Great Divorce, that heaven and hell "work backwards" through time so that, for those in heaven all their existence will be heavenly. Likewise, those in hell will always have been in hell.<BR/><BR/>That assumes, of course, that Calvin was right. I'm not so sure that he was always right and I don't accept that God created some people just to damn them. God has to work to save us. Damnation, we can get on our own.<BR/><BR/>YBIC,<BR/>Phil Snyderplsdeaconhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18039800243898137584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-30043595.post-45677763180103604032008-06-09T12:26:00.000-05:002008-06-09T12:26:00.000-05:00There are other issues touching on this which are ...There are other issues touching on this which are not quite as easy to reconcile. Unconditional election, the idea of the predestination of the elect as in Calvinism, has a lot of quotes in scripture to support it. I don't really LIKE the idea, but there are many quotes in the New Testament which seem to clearly point to it. Then again, there are as many quotes to suggest that salvation can be lost, which would be contradictory to unconditional election (or I guess to irresistible grace, a related Calvinist idea). <BR/><BR/>I don't know the answer to these questions, although practically speaking it doesn't matter, as we should behave the same in either case.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10385038621021373803noreply@blogger.com